crazy and the king

destroying the diversity & inclusion narrative

julie and torin are serious about destroying the lame, losing and punitive diversity and inclusion narrative while chasing a narrative of ambition and freedom to explore.

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julie and torin welcome anoop gupta to talk start-ups, microsoft, "academic types" and how we use data to successfully drive incredible, underrepresented talent into our organizations, and julie throws in a challenge to wrap us up.

anoop gupta is the ceo and co-founder of seekout, the ai-powered talent 360 platform. anoop started seekout after a 20-year career at microsoft, which began with the acquisition of his first startup, vxtreme, in 1997.

during his tenure, anoop was the corporate vice-president of the multibillion-dollar unified communications group. he was ta to bill gates, advising on technology and product strategy as a distinguished scientist at microsoft research, leading work on telepresence and natural user interfaces. prior to microsoft, anoop was a tenured professor at stanford university and he holds a ph.d. in computer science from carnegie mellon university.

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the team

julie sowash

co-host
as executive director for disability solutions, julie works with federal contractors to successfully engage and retain qualified jobseekers with disabilities.

torin ellis

co-host
torin partners with company leaders to identify inhibitors that stall consistent achievement of the diversity, equity, & inclusion objectives achieved through recruitment.