the chad & cheese podcast

hr's most dangerous podcast

chad & cheese discuss a wide variety of topics and current news stories around recruiting, human resources, and employment. hiring companies, employers, and vendors tune in weekly for insights from practitioners, vendors, startups, and more.

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who doesn't love a good underdog story?

the upstart hoping to make noise in an established market. that's why you'll love this weekly episode. jobget looks to take on jobcase and snagajob with a new round of funding.

  • fountain puts on the gloves to fight against the old guard ats business.
  • cornerstone ondemand acquires an old business to supercharge a new one.
  • buy-or-sell with

-- ceipal, wilco, and canditech is full of startups looking to dislodge the status quo.

  • ...and then there's amazon, which really doesn't fit the underdog narrative, but hey, did you expect perfection from this podcast? of course not. but we throw in some shrimp po' boys to make you feel better about life.


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love or hate testgorilla

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fill, equip, & win w/ chloe and allison

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adzuna & textkernel devour

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more about chad and cheese

bringing to the people over 40 years of combined experience chad and cheese bring a unique perspective and brash flavor to the recruitment industry.

chad sowash, an army infantry drill sergeant, cut his teeth in online recruiting in ’98 with online career center before it was launched in ’99 as he helped build directemployers from the ground up, steered recruitmilitary toward revenue as cxo, and built randstad’s very first military veteran hiring program. today you can find him speaking at events, podcasting or just working his ass off as a principal partner at catch 22 consulting.

the yin to chad’s podcasting yang – get it? – is joel cheesman another recruiting industry tech geek from the late 90’s where he worked at espan one of the very first job boards in the world, joboptions, careerboard, jobing, and did partnership shit at employeescreeniq. but you probably know him from his days as cheezhead. joel likes to tinker which means he's also started a variety of businesses, including his latest venture an employer review aggregator and brand early warning system called ratedly.

please visit the official chad & cheese website for more information.

the team

chad sowash

co-founder, co-host, producer
besides podcasting constantly, chad speaks at events and is principal partner at catch 22 consulting.

joel cheesman

co-founder, co-host
besides podcasting "on the reg", joel is the founder of ratedly and head cheese of cheezhead.